Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

02/14/2022 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 295 DENTIST SPEC. LICENSE/RADIOLOGIC EQUIP TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 295 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 11 COMMUNITY PROPERTY TRUSTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 11(JUD) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 289 AK MARIJUANA INDUSTRY TASK FORCE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 289(L&C) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 276 PSYCHOLOGISTS: LICENSING AND PRACTICE TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
            HB 289-AK MARIJUANA INDUSTRY TASK FORCE                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:50:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 289,  "An Act establishing the Alaska marijuana                                                               
industry task force; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:50:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS opened public testimony on HB 289.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:50:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BELINDA  "DOLLY" PHELPS,  stated  she is  a licensed  [marijuana]                                                               
cultivator.   She said  she supports the  introduction of  HB 289                                                               
because the need for a  state legislative marijuana task force is                                                               
long   overdue   and   such  a   workgroup   will   offer   solid                                                               
recommendations for change in  the marijuana industry, especially                                                               
concerning   the   crippling   tax  structure   that   is   being                                                               
experienced.  She expressed her support  of the hard work done by                                                               
the Alaska Marijuana Industry Association  (AMIA) to get the bill                                                               
heard.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. PHELPS drew attention to  Section [1(b)(6)] of the bill which                                                               
states that the AMIA shall  choose three industry members for the                                                               
board, two of  which must be AMIA members.   She stated that this                                                               
is  highly inappropriate  because  all licensees  should have  an                                                               
equal  opportunity to  participate  on a  state legislative  task                                                               
force.   Task  force  members, she  continued,  should be  chosen                                                               
fairly and equally  among the industries they  represent based on                                                               
merit, not  affiliation or  membership with  any certain  club or                                                               
group.   She  said the  members  of the  Marijuana Control  Board                                                               
should choose  the three industry  representatives as  this board                                                               
is by far  the most qualified to  do so.  She  suggested that the                                                               
language in Section [1(b)(6)] be  changed to read, "three members                                                               
representing  cultivation,  manufacturing,  and  retail  cannabis                                                               
businesses appointed by the Marijuana  Control Board members, and                                                               
each of whom resides in a different judicial district".                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:52:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY inquired  about the  number of  marijuana                                                               
associations existing in Alaska.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. PHELPS replied that there's  one association, but she doesn't                                                               
know the  number of  members.  However,  she added,  when talking                                                               
about  a state  marijuana task  force  to deal  with the  state's                                                               
marijuana  industry, everyone  in  the industry  should have  the                                                               
opportunity for their  voices to be heard without having  to be a                                                               
member of a certain group or club.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY asked whether  Ms. Phelps has a suggestion                                                               
for what the three "zones" would look like.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. PHELPS responded  that the Marijuana Control Board  is by far                                                               
the most  qualified to  choose from  industry members  around the                                                               
state who have put their names in  the hat.  She pointed out that                                                               
the  Marijuana  Control Board  has  firsthand  information on  an                                                               
industry member's merit related  to comprehension of the industry                                                               
and whether the industry member  has been operating several years                                                               
with  no violations,  payment of  taxes  on time,  and no  unpaid                                                               
taxes, thereby making them a good candidate for the task force.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:54:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN TUNSETH,  Owner, East Rip,  testified in support of  HB 289.                                                               
He noted that  East Rip is a marijuana  [dispensary] business and                                                               
stated  that  taxation is  the  most  divisive issue  within  the                                                               
industry as well  as the most division issue  that the [Marijuana                                                               
Control Board]  must deal  with.   The tax is  very broad  in its                                                               
applicability and  can potentially  shape the landscape  that the                                                               
industry will  be in should  federal legalization happen.   There                                                               
has now  been enough  run time  to do  this technical  deep dive.                                                               
While it is unknown what the  exact answers are, it is known that                                                               
it's a problem  and barriers have been run into  with some of the                                                               
technical   professionals  and   access  to   data  through   the                                                               
Department of  Revenue.  So,  this really seems like  a ripe-for-                                                               
discussion issue and very wise to support.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:55:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  closed public testimony after  ascertaining that                                                               
no one else wished to testify.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:55:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON moved  to adopt  Amendment 1,  labeled 32-                                                               
LS1317\B.1, Radford, 2/12/22, which read:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 30:                                                                                                           
          Delete "and travel expenses"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 1, following "meet":                                                                                          
          Insert   "by   telephone   or   other   means   of                                                                    
      communication that ensures all members participating                                                                      
     can hear each other during the meeting"                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 5:                                                                                                  
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
          "(f)  A meeting of the task force may not take                                                                        
     place in person."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsections accordingly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:55:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS objected for purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:55:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON  explained that, after conversing  with the                                                               
bill's sponsor, Amendment 1 would  move the task force's meetings                                                               
from in-person to online.  It  was heard in public testimony that                                                               
meetings  are  already occurring  online,  he  continued, so  the                                                               
$100,000 in travel  cost in the fiscal note could  be better used                                                               
somewhere else.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS invited the bill sponsor to comment.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:56:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE  HARDENBROOK,  Staff,  Representative Grier  Hopkins,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,   replied  that  the  sponsor   has  reviewed                                                               
Amendment 1 and  based on conversations with  Mr. Glen Klinkhart,                                                               
director of  the Alcohol and  Marijuana Control Office  (AMCO) in                                                               
the Department  of Commerce, Community, and  Economic Development                                                               
(DCCED), it  seems that this  would not  be a huge  liability for                                                               
the task force moving forward.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:57:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  removed his objection  to the amendment.   There                                                               
being no further objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:57:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ moved  to adopt  Conceptional Amendment  [2],                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert "; and (9) a public health professional                                                                        
          appointed by the governor."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:57:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:57:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ explained that  Conceptual Amendment [2] would                                                               
add  to  the  marijuana  industry  task  force  a  public  health                                                               
professional appointed by  the governor.  This is  similar to the                                                               
Marijuana Control Board that already  has a public health member,                                                               
she noted.  Since the  committee has just eliminated travel, this                                                               
proposal would not add any fiscal note  to the bill.  She said it                                                               
is  important that  a  public  health member  be  a  part of  the                                                               
conversations  as changes  in policy  are  considered, given  the                                                               
implications of marijuana use on public health.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS invited the bill sponsor to comment.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARDENBROOK responded  that  he doesn't  know the  sponsor's                                                               
opinion on Conceptual Amendment [2].                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:58:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON  said  he  understands the  reason  for  a                                                               
public  health professional  on the  Marijuana Control  Board but                                                               
asked  what  the purpose  would  be  of  having a  public  health                                                               
professional on a marijuana industry  task force that is supposed                                                               
to be looking at taxes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  answered  that,   without  a  public  health                                                               
professional, there would  be a lack of  expertise in considering                                                               
the  way that  taxation  impacts consumption.    A public  health                                                               
member  would not  be an  opponent necessarily  of the  marijuana                                                               
industry,  she  continued,  but  it  is known  that  there  is  a                                                               
correlation   and   sometimes   causation   between   taxes   and                                                               
consumption, so  it is an  important viewpoint to  have expressed                                                               
on the [task force].  It would  be one member out of thirteen and                                                               
would  bring  important  expertise  as  the  [task  force]  makes                                                               
recommendations to the full board.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:59:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS removed  his objection  to Conceptual  Amendment                                                               
[2].                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE objected to Conceptual Amendment [2].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:59:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Snyder,  Fields,                                                               
Spohnholz,  and McCarty  voted in  favor of  Conceptual Amendment                                                               
[2].  Representatives Schrage, Nelson,  and Kaufman voted against                                                               
it.   Therefore, Conceptual Amendment  [2] was adopted by  a vote                                                               
of 4-3.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:00:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  related that  several people  involved in                                                               
the cannabis industry  in his district have  voiced concern about                                                               
who is  the [AMIA].   He  said it's an  interesting point  in the                                                               
public comment  of having assured zones  [judicial districts] for                                                               
these people coming  from the association.  He said  he has asked                                                               
people in his  district about how many associations  exist and it                                                               
is  still a  question out  there and  whether there  needs to  be                                                               
zones [judicial districts].                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  commented that he  heard those concerns  too and                                                               
wondered if someone would do an  amendment.  He said his personal                                                               
view is  that it's beneficial  for the industry  to self-organize                                                               
and take  the time to  represent itself through  an organization,                                                               
so  he is  comfortable with  that construct  and moving  the bill                                                               
forward as  it is.  If  members of the committee  are comfortable                                                               
with moving  the bill forward, he  continued, it can be  seen how                                                               
it  is treated  in the  House Finance  Committee, but  if members                                                               
want to change the construct the bill can be held to do that.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:02:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARDENBROOK  addressed Representative McCarty's concern.   He                                                               
said the  bill as written  anticipates that there would  be three                                                               
members of the marijuana industry  appointed to serve on the task                                                               
force,  two of  which would  be members  of the  Alaska Marijuana                                                               
Industry Association (AMIA).   He explained that  AMIA is similar                                                               
to   the  Alaska   Cabaret,  Hotel,   Restaurant  and   Retailers                                                               
Association (Alaska  CHARR), a statewide  membership organization                                                               
for  businesses that  sell alcohol.   Like  CHARR, AMIA  does not                                                               
represent all  members of  the industry, but  it is  the existing                                                               
statewide  organization.   As  well, he  continued,  the bill  as                                                               
written requires  that one of  the folks  appointed by AMIA  be a                                                               
non-member of  AMIA.  Additionally,  those three  appointees must                                                               
come from  separate Alaska judicial districts,  a requirement for                                                               
geographic diversity in representation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY drew  attention to  page 2  of the  bill,                                                               
lines 20-23,  and noted  that several people  with whom  he spoke                                                               
didn't know who the Alaska  Marijuana Industry Association is and                                                               
were concerned  that it  was a  select area  of the  state rather                                                               
than representing  all the  state.  He  explained he  was wanting                                                               
assurance  that the  provision to  reside  in different  judicial                                                               
districts is indeed the case.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:05:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  moved to  report HB 289,  as amended,  out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   She further  moved that  the Alaska  Legislative                                                               
Legal Services be  able to make conforming  and technical changes                                                               
as needed.  There being  no objection, CSHB 289(L&C) was reported                                                               
from the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 295 Follow-Up Information from CBPL 2.11.22.pdf HHSS 3/31/2022 3:00:00 PM
HL&C 2/14/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 295
HB 289 Letter of Support - GOOD Cannabis 2.14.22.pdf HL&C 2/14/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 289
HB 289 Amendment #1 - Nelson 2.14.22.pdf HL&C 2/14/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 289
HB 289 Conceptual Amendment 1.pdf HL&C 2/14/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 289